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erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 11:51
by Doodle Dee
Whatever have they done to my Lulu

Lulu is generally a submissive. Now I no for some reason she absolutely hates boxers but now she seems to hate spaniels! I have no idea why, she just barks and lunges for them.

Any ideas?

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 16:34
by Bid
Boxers I can understand as they have docked tails and squashed faces which makes their expressions harder to read, but spaniels are usually easier. :?

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 18:28
by stout
How odd. Stout really doesn't like jack russells, but then he has been bitten three times by them, so you can't really blame him. He isn't a massive fan of collies, there is one in particular he has had a couple of disagreements with. He has lots of spaniel friends.

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 19:27
by jackieholmes19
She's fine with Doodles :D

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 19:48
by Ianto!
I suppose the classic question would have to be, has one upset her Dee? Ianto became very frightened of all black and white collies when he was (briefly) bullied by one at class... We changed clubs and he's now relaxed with them again. He also pulled me over in the street a few weeks back, trying to get to a wee yappy Westie who has always barked at him.... he just suddenly decided to sort him out! Perhaps it's one 'rogue' Spaniel who has soured her view of the breed...?
Anne, Ianto & Wyre x

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 21:40
by val&finn
Hi Dee, could it be that the Spaniels are too bouncy for her?

Finn used to dislike spaniels and I put it down to us occasionally bumping into a lady who was walking five of them on the Common. They never came up to Finn, but the bushes around us teemed with Spaniels, left, right and centre - just when he squatted down to do his 7am business (and he does like his privacy!). I think it really confused him that they were bouncing in and out of the undergrowth like kangaroos. The animosity passed, I learnt to make sure he notices other dogs early on rather than being surprised by one suddenly appearing behind him when he's engrossed.

Do you know any Spaniel owners you can socialise her with?

Best wishes, Val, Finn and Izzy

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 23:05
by Pollydoodle
Hi Dee, it's not association of place p'haps rather than breed specific.
Some spaniels can be 'very busy' and it can unsettle some dogs.

We meet a certain breed near by and seems there is dislike,meet the same on the beach and not even a second glance,so it is weird.
Would love to get inside our dood's head to fathom out what makes them tick sometimes.
Anne - weird we have had the same westie incident,for the same reason you state.

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 23:29
by Rachelhodgkins
They are a strange bunch our doodles, maybe they are to bouncy. Though I heard the most bizarre thing today. Some white Westie took a disliking to my pup and the owner said oh my dogs a bit of a racist and doesn't like black dogs ( for one my lottie is chocolate) but did make me chuckle. I have no idea can dogs be racist lol?

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 07 Apr 2015, 07:30
by Doodle Dee
Yes I think it is association actually - but the first time she saw "this spaniel" (which we have seen many many times) was the time she went for it. Perhaps it gave off a vibe to her, I have no idea - silly dood - but I suppose at least I know she will protect herself - I wonder if thats good or not :lol:

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 07 Apr 2015, 22:56
by Ianto!
'Our' Westie's owner said it was because Ianto is black and it doesn't like black dogs... The other day it saw me out with Wyre, and started barking its head off - Wyre is chocolate and cream.... :roll:

Hang on, perhaps it's barking at me!! :lol:
Anne, Ianto & Wyre x

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 08 Apr 2015, 00:13
by Bid
I wrote a paper on black dogs for my behaviourist training - lots of people on here helped with the research! In a nutshell, dogs can see the outline of the mouth, eyes and ears on a light coloured dog, but with their vision all they see with a black dog is the teeth - look at these 2 photos that show the dogs view of Daze & Beam ... both actually happy smiley faces, but the dogs view is different ...

What we see ...

Daisy - happy face - eyes squinty, ears down, mouth relaxed

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Beamish

The same - relaxed mouth, floppy ears, eyes soft ...

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What they see ...

Daisy - ears eyes and mouth still pretty much defined ...

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Beamish - pretty much all you can see are the teeth!

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Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 08 Apr 2015, 17:24
by Rachelhodgkins
That's some pretty fascinating stuff bid, I guess would be the same effect with a dark chocolate dog. I will tell the Westie owner next time I see her, that her dog isn't racist it's just that he maybe misinterpreting facial body language.

Re: erm first Boxers now Spaniels

Posted: 08 Apr 2015, 20:15
by Ianto!
I have to say that the first thing hooms say about our Iant is, "What lovely white teeth!" They show up so well against his black fur... So other dogs must see that first too... I need to get him a gum shield! :wink:
Anne, Ianto & Wyre x