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Advice please for hopeful new miniature labradoodle owner

Post by KatieB » 26 Jul 2016, 15:27

Hi there all Labradoodle experts! I'm hoping you can please give me some pointers as I'm thinking of getting a miniature labradoodle and will be going to see a breeder and puppies tomorrow.

We had a wonderful black Labrador, Solo, for nine years but he sadly died earlier this year of cancer and our remaining pets (3 year old Jack Russell Binx and 9 year old ginger tom Garfield) really miss him, as do the children. So the first question is, should we foresee any problems introducing a labradoodle puppy to the family? Our children are all older teenagers, so we don't have little ones to worry about. Are labradoodles in general very different in temperament to a regular Labrador?

The idea of a miniature labradoodle really appeals as Solo was a very big dog and we do enjoy having our little Binx. We also thought Binx would respond better to a new puppy that isn't bigger than him, but do miniatures have any particular health problems to worry about? I understand that we still ought to check hip and eye scores, just as we did for Solo. Anything else we ought to check out?

I'd be very grateful for any advice you can give and thanks in advance.

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Post by Bid » 27 Jul 2016, 08:10

Hi there - exciting, but I am sorry to hear about Solo.

With miniatures, size very often depends on the generation, so for example, a lab cross mini poodle, or a standard doodle crossed with a miniature poodle can sometimes result in a large doodle, but a miniature crossed with another miniature will in all probability be smaller.

I have three labradoodles and before them I always had labs - one of my doodles - the 5-year old Beamish is really a hairy lab - in all ways, and he is adored by everyone he meets. My oldest doodle Daisy - 10 years old - is like a labrador with a remarkable brain - she is very clever, a real problem solver, but who works just for herself and so has been challenging, but in a delightful way and with a mischievious sense of humour to lighten her naughtiness. The middle girl - Poppy at almost 9 is, as far as I can tell, a poodle in attitude. Remarkably keen to learn, will work for praise and cuddles, not interested in food or treats, a little sensitive to sound, hates getting wet or dirty(!) and a true athlete. She is like a border collie in that she needs to work or has a tendency to get obsessive about things.

That is the thing with doodles - you never know what you will get, but it will be a wonderful surprise finding out!
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Post by KatieB » 27 Jul 2016, 10:29

Thanks so much. This is really helpful. Do you have any further advice on what questions I should ask when I meet the puppies and breeder? When we got Solo, as he was KC registered from a line of Champions, we got a certificate with his hip scores and another for his eye examination, along with his pedigree certificate. Obviously I know I won't get a pedigree certificate this time, but should I expect the others? The puppies I'm seeing are F3 miniature labradoodle - the mother being a miniature doodle and the father a miniature poodle.

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Post by Bid » 27 Jul 2016, 19:38

The hip scores etc will be for the parents, so you should be shown the certificates for both father and mother. Similarly eye tests. If the father is a poodle, the puppies will be backcrosses, so an f something b. My Poppy is a backcross - she is an F1b - her Mum was an F1 doodle and her Dad was a poodle. The poodle backcrosses are often very curlycoated - frequently non-shedding, but needing a lot of grooming to stop them matting.

At the top of each section on this forum is the breeders code of practice which might give you some ideas for questions, such as how old is the bitch and how many litters has she had. In my opinion it is preferable that the puppies are reared in a family home, although some people are happy to have kennelled puppies. I would also want to know about the temperament of both parents. I would only ever get a puppy that I have seen with at least the mother, and if possible the father too, although often the father is owned by someone else so that isn't possible.

I also wouldn't want a puppy that had been desexed early - some breeders desex puppies at 6 weeks but that is not something I agree with being in the puppies best interests.

I am sure others will also have some questions they would ask.
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Post by KatieB » 28 Jul 2016, 11:42

Thanks so much, again this was really helpful. We met the breeder yesterday, saw the four remaining puppies with mother, grandmother and uncle. As you say, the father was elsewhere. After sitting on the floor with them for half an hour a lovely little chap chose us, so we chose him too and have called him Teddy. He came home with us last night and was incredibly chilled out and well behaved. He managed the night in his cage, which we relocated to our room so he had company and slept right through until dawn. Luckily he went back to sleep again until 6.45. This morning our vet has checked him over and given him a clean bill of health (not that we had any doubts but best to be sure) so all is looking very good.

Our cat has accepted him already, probably because the cat is still bigger than Teddy: the pair of them curled up next to each other on the sofa yesterday evening and snoozed together. Our Jack Russell is not so welcoming just yet, but the vet has said he should settle down in a short time.

So it's onwards and upwards and the training starts now! The joys of puppy puddles on the floor for a few weeks.

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Post by sealofapproval » 30 Jul 2016, 13:53

I'm glad to hear Teddy is settling in! He sounds lovely :)

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Post by Ianto! » 02 Aug 2016, 20:26

Hi KatieB,
Welcome to the world of doodles... I would advise that you get insurance cover as soon as possible - preferably the covered for life type. And ensure that your little dood is socialised with as many people as possible as soon as you can. If you have friends with properly protected dogs (as in vaccinated) get your little one out and visiting them asap. Congratulations on the newbie, by the way!! :)
Anne, Ianto & Wyre x

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Post by KatieB » 03 Aug 2016, 09:53

Thanks so much for this advice. Actually Teddy is going on his first walk today and we'll be taking him to meet our neighbours dogs too. We've had lots of the kids' friends round, and he's loves cuddles which helps. So he's getting used to people coming and going but he's rather vocal! Far more so than our other dogs. Hopefully that's just 'cos he's little and we can train it out of him as he settles down.

I always had our old lab insured, knowing he could well develop hip problems etc, and just as well considering the cost of his cancer treatments, which ran into thousands, but have never bothered with our Jack Russell or the cat. I wasn't going to with Teddy either, as he's so much smaller so won't be so expensive, but are they prone to health problems I ought to be on the look out for?

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Post by We5Kings » 03 Aug 2016, 10:24

Our Dude had a v expensive auto immune reaction to an anti sickness drug and ended up in Bristol vets hospital being seen by an expert neurologist, followed by 3months of steroids,at a year old! He completely recovered, thank goodness.
This was totally unexpected and cost over £3,000! I would advise lifetime insurance cover... Just in case. We are with MoreThan and they've been great. Anny

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Post by KatieB » 03 Aug 2016, 10:32

Thanks for the advice Anny and I'm so pleased to hear your dog has fully recovered. We were also with MoreThan for our lab and they were very good about paying up when they had to, although they really did start to load up the premiums after his first bout of basal cell cancer, and of course at that point you can't change insurer and still get full cover. It got to the point where his premium was significantly bigger than our house insurance! Teddy should be cheaper to start with though as he's a small dog.

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Post by Bid » 04 Aug 2016, 00:08

I am with Petplan - they are not the cheapest, but the advantage is they don't increase the premium when you make a claim. One of my doodles has 2 life-long conditions (hip dysplasia being one of them :-( ) and for 4 months of this year her monthly vet bills were £350. She has just been in today for a visit and to get half of her meds - £177. There is no way I could have paid for all she needs without insurance, yet as a pup there were no indications that this was the way she would turn out.
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Post by Ianto! » 04 Aug 2016, 22:25

We're with PetPlan too. They've been very good in paying out for Ianto's H.D. physio, plus ten sessions of hydro. We are about to find out whether they are good at paying out for his cancer operation... It's always a good idea to cover your pup to the hilt... if it turns out that they are hale and hearty you can always choose to drop their cover, but it's always wise to cover them at first...
Anne, Ianto & Wyre x

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