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 Post subject: Re: How to prevent separation anxiety/barking in crate
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:18 pm 
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How are you getting her in the crate? Sounds like she has already associated the crate as a negative place to be. I taught my doodle "bed" meaning I wanted her to go in the crate, did this by having a tiny bit of sausage holding in in front of her and guiding her in with it, then say "bed" when she's in it and she came back out for another play, never shirt the door or made her stay in it at all, just make it a game.

Once she is leaping in when you say "bed" and enjoying her sausage, close the door, then open it again and congratulate them with another bit of sausage (or other favourite treat) do this step several times throughout the next day.

Next, have some favourite treats on the side, say "bed" give a treat and shut the crate door, walk away to the treats on the side come back and give her one, walk away again, stand at the pile of treats for as long as you think you will get away with, but make sure to return and let her out with another treat for not barking. Do this a few times in the day

Then build on it some more, put the treats outside the door, put her is her crate, give a treat you can say "back soon" if you like, kind of a queue that you are going, walk out the room and straight backin with a treat. T
Whispa will soon learn you are leaving to get her something nice. You will quickly be able to build up the time she can be left for.

Not many people realise a dog needs training to be locked in a crate. I think to many people close the dog in before the dog is ready, and by sitting outside, you are just proving to them they need to worry, cos otherwise you wouldn't sit there. Ask yourself If a child was screaming and shouting cos he wanted to go to the park and you sat him on the naughty step, would you sit in front of them just cos they were crying? when my dog barked I used to look her straight In The face, to acknowledge her barking but let her know it wasn't going to get her anywhere, I found she stopped barking a lot quicker if I stared at her, then as soon as she stopped she get lots of praise and let out. You can still praise them even when you are not in the room, "good girl jess" is the first thing I say when I walk through my door lol


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 Post subject: Re: How to prevent separation anxiety/barking in crate
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:44 pm 
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How are you getting her in the crate? Sounds like she has already associated the crate as a negative place to be. I taught my doodle "bed" meaning I wanted her to go in the crate, did this by having a tiny bit of sausage holding in in front of her and guiding her in with it, then say "bed" when she's in it and she came back out for another play, never shirt the door or made her stay in it at all, just make it a game.

Once she is leaping in when you say "bed" and enjoying her sausage, close the door, then open it again and congratulate them with another bit of sausage (or other favourite treat) do this step several times throughout the next day.

Next, have some favourite treats on the side, say "bed" give a treat and shut the crate door, walk away to the treats on the side come back and give her one, walk away again, stand at the pile of treats for as long as you think you will get away with, but make sure to return and let her out with another treat for not barking. Do this a few times in the day

Then build on it some more, put the treats outside the door, put her is her crate, give a treat you can say "back soon" if you like, kind of a queue that you are going, walk out the room and straight backin with a treat. T
Whispa will soon learn you are leaving to get her something nice. You will quickly be able to build up the time she can be left for.


Yes, except that I did all of that.

She very happily runs and jumps into her crate when I say "bed", but all the positive reinforcement in the world has not made her happy to be in there when I'm at home. She's only 10 weeks old, so we've only had her 2 weeks (feels like ages, though!), and for the past few nights she's happily slept all night in her crate and happily spent up to 2 hours in there when we're not home. It's just when someone's around in the house. After spending an entire week doing the bed-treat-leave-return-treat-praise routine over and over and over again, it just wasn't working soon enough to be useful for me. I have other things I have to do in the day.

I'm happy enough to trek outside with her every 90-120 minutes and she hasn't had an accident since Monday, so that's something. I just don't think crate training, in the sense of crating her after every hour of play during the day when I'm home to teach her to hold her business until I ferry her outside, is going to work. Yes, we feed her in her crate, and chuck her toys in there so she knows they're there for her to fetch when she wants them, and we give her treats in her crate, and sometimes a peanut butter stuffed kong, but while I'm happy for her crate to be her bed, I'm no longer going to try to keep her locked in anytime I'm home.

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 Post subject: Re: How to prevent separation anxiety/barking in crate
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:00 am 
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She very happily runs and jumps into her crate when I say "bed", but all the positive reinforcement in the world has not made her happy to be in there when I'm at home. She's only 10 weeks old, so we've only had her 2 weeks (feels like ages, though!), and for the past few nights she's happily slept all night in her crate and happily spent up to 2 hours in there when we're not home. It's just when someone's around in the house. After spending an entire week doing the bed-treat-leave-return-treat-praise routine over and over and over again, it just wasn't working soon enough to be useful for me. I have other things I have to do in the day.


I wrote a post on here stressing about some of Barney's major foibles at the time - a lot of the response said time will solve it. I didn't quite understand it as surely there was some training difference I could do - but yes, sooner or later time and continuing everything over really helped him. Obviously, now he's a couple of months older I find new niggles :D (But they get sorted much quicker because he training differently works!! :D )

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 Post subject: Re: How to prevent separation anxiety/barking in crate
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:06 am 
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Emily, Jessie never once accepted the crate when we were home, she was only happy going in if we had our coats on to go out or at bed time - so we gave up trying.

You don't have to put yourself through the mill if it is not working, just go with what does, forget while you are home and she will be fine when you go out. She wont make a fuss if she knows no one is there to give the attention. :wink:

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