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 Post subject: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 25 Mar 2016, 11:03 
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It is no secret Lulu hates boxers. I know the reason for that but there is also a spaniel she has taken a dislike to. Normally a "sit down" dog if she sees another dog she doesn't know but when she sees this spaniel she flies at her. I normally put her on a lead when I see this dog but today I thought it was reg another spaniel that she knows. It wasn't and she went. They didn't make contact. Just a lot of noise and snarling. The spaniel is also a "sit down" dog and now I think about it her owner had put her on a lead when she saw Lulu. I did feel bad but it was okAy as the lady lives on our estAte.

Anyone have any ideas why two normally passive female dogs should have this reaction with each other..?

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 Post subject: Re: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 25 Mar 2016, 13:25 
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Females?!
Wish i knew the answer. Maybe they both recognise the 'weaker?' state so feel braver... :? Love to know!


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 Post subject: Re: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 25 Mar 2016, 22:37 
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No answers for you, Dee, but I'd love to know too...

Our Ianto is the most submissive dood, but when he sees the Westie from 'round the corner, it's a Mexican stand off (he pulled me over last year, resulting in suspected cracked ribs, just trying to get to it :? )

The darn thing has always barked continuously at him from the time it hoves into view, until it has disappeared 'round the corner and up the road - even though Iant was only a puppy when they first met.

I suspect it is because the Westie's mum crossed to road to see puppy Iant when I was carrying him around to socialise him, and gave him one of its 'special' German-baked biscuits... (Ianto didn't even like the bloomin' biscuit!) Ever since, he's kicked off when he's seen us - and eventually, Ianto'd had enough, and started barking back... :(

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 Post subject: Re: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 26 Mar 2016, 11:05 
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Dudes arch enemies are 2growly snarly Westies! They are walked by a grumpy old man who has them on extendable leads( Oh, how I HATE those leads :evil: )
On one occasion Dude was sitting next to me ( on lead in the village) while I chatted to a lady and her Spaniel, Treacle. Suddenly the nasty Westies appeared, way ahead of the grumpy man( who has the lead on full extension) and they both went for Dude! I managed to pull Dude away from them because his reaction was to look surprised! He didn't even bark! Treacles owner hit one of them on the nose! When the old man got to us he said "You shouldn't stand there with him! You know he provokes my dogs!"!!!! :roll:
A week later we were in the park, off lead, when I saw the dreaded Yorkies,also off lead, haring towards us. This time Dude did his Make Myself Look Big stance and did a big bark! The Yorkies circled him, but backed off. This time the man said " You've got no right to bring your dog here to wind my dogs up!"
Some people are just bonkers! Anny


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 Post subject: Re: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 26 Mar 2016, 15:43 
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Apologies to all Westies! Dudes enemies are Yorkies!


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 Post subject: Re: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 26 Mar 2016, 22:52 
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It sounds like Dude's enemy is the Grumpy Old Man, Anny....! :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2016, 11:52 
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You are dead right there Anne! I should probably feel sorry for the little dogs who have to put up with him 24/7! I certainly do my best to avoid him if I see him in the distance.
In general I've never really understood why, on occasion, other dogs just Go for Dude! I'm sure they must sense that he's a very passive, gentle soul. Someone told me it's because he hasn't been neutered. Who knows. I'm happy to have a gentle dog. Anny


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 Post subject: Re: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2016, 21:11 
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There are a few things about our doodles that make their expressions hard to read - their fringes often cover their eyes, their beards and moustaches can cover up a smiley mouth, and with hairy ears it can be hard to tell if they are aroused and erect, or gentle and floppy. Cream doodles with black lips and eyelids are easier to read than black doodles too. Dogs see fewer details and duller colours, and I have used these photos to show the difference. With Daisy's colouring you can still see her happy smiley mouth and soft eyes, but in Beamish's photo the predominant feature is his teeth.

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 Post subject: Re: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2016, 23:09 
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I just did the Crimestoppers-thing, with the squinty-eyes, and Beamish is lovely!!! :wink:

Yes, I've been told, variously, that it's because Ianto is black; they can't see his eyes; he can't wiggle his ears; he was entire - this at only eight months old, he's neutered now - and the first thing you see is his teeth (lots of hooms comment on how white his teeth are - they're no whiter than his brown and white brother's, but they definitely are his 'dominant' feature...) Black dogs even have their own 'Black Dog Appreciation Day' as they are over-looked for adoption and in puppy litters.

Our poor black doods certainly seem to have everything stacked against them... perhaps that's why we love them so much! :D

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 Post subject: Re: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2016, 08:25 
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Great pix Bid! Very helpful too. The black dog theory does seem the answer. Anny


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 Post subject: Re: 2 passive dogs square up
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2016, 15:35 
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We meet lots of people and they always say I have never seen a black dog as big as yours, and people say there dogs are scared of black dogs.


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