When to neuter?

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When to neuter?

Post by Jojo123 » 01 Aug 2016, 08:26

Hedley is just 10 months old and we're wondering when he should be neutered? When he was really young the vet advised waiting to ensure he is fully grown so reduced testosterone won't have a negative effect on his ligament/bone growth.
I've looked at pros and cons on the internet but wonder if anyone has any thoughts or advice?
Thanks Jo and Hedley

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Re: When to neuter?

Post by linny » 01 Aug 2016, 09:48

I wait till they are physically amd mentally mature before neutering....for the reasons you have mentioned.
Jethro was exhibiting unwanted behaviours fairly early ( hackles up when other dogs approached :roll: ) so I opted for chemical castation. He has a hormone implant roughly every 6/8 months. or when I notice that the testosterone levels rising.
I will be getting him surgically neutered sometime soon as he is now three and just about mature (debatable :lol:)

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Re: When to neuter?

Post by We5Kings » 01 Aug 2016, 11:56

Interesting question. Our Dude is 3 and we have decided not to neuter him. He has never exhibited any "humping" behaviour or any interest in the opposite sex. Our vet sees no point in putting him through the op. In fact our vet feels it should never be done before the dog is mature, and that varies a lot! He also says it is optional procedure and that we Brits have fallen into the American way of early neutering,which has resulted in a lot of dogs "stuck" in adolescence!

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Post by linny » 01 Aug 2016, 15:02

I'm with you on ESN ....my old Labradoodle Bobby was entire for the whole of his life , simply because he was never a problem..no humping , no interest in bitches and no aggressive behaviour .
The main reason for getting Jethro done is to protect against testicular cancer (not a proven fact) but as jethro has already had one malignant tumour I want to reduce the chances of testicular cancer.

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Re: When to neuter?

Post by Jojo123 » 01 Aug 2016, 17:31

Thank you for your replies - definitely given us food for thought. From the sounds of it Hedley is still too young for castration. He isn't showing aggressive behaviour or any 'humping' but my worry is the risk of testicular cancer. Also he could run after a female in season and get run over or other male dogs could see him as a threat and target him if not castrated ( the joys of researching a subject on the internet!)
I'll have a chat with the vet- thanks again for your advice
Jo and Hedley (still unsure how to add pics of him onto here!) :)

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Post by linny » 01 Aug 2016, 22:02

Jo , if you open a photobucket account , upload your pics there, then choose the pic you want to post here. To the right of each photo you will see an IMG bar just copy then paste into your messenger box here.
Good Luck :lol:
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Post by Bid » 02 Aug 2016, 08:05

THere are a few behavioural things to take into account when considering neutering, or not neutering. A timid dog can struggle to cope with socialising once neutered - they need testosterone to help them deal with other dogs. You are right too in saying that neutered dogs do not like entire males - I see this time and time again in training classes - a perfectly well behaved and socialised entire male can get repeated unprovoked attacks from neutered males.
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Re: When to neuter?

Post by We5Kings » 02 Aug 2016, 13:13

It's very true. Neutered dogs show a certain amount of aggression to our Dude. However, I feel neutering would have made him more timid. Being entire has given him the confidence to stand his ground. He has never been attacked( thank goodness) but has been barked or growled at. In those situations He stands still and makes himself look BIG. :roll:
I personally think that un neutered males are easier to train and better behaved, but that may have been luck. I certainly think a lot of males who are neutered early end up being very unruly and badly behaved.
Of course, if Dude was a different kind of dog, or if there were specific health issues, I would consider neutering. But I hope not to have to.
Stan Rawlinson has written some v interesting pieces on this subject. Anny

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Re: When to neuter?

Post by Ianto! » 02 Aug 2016, 20:52

We asked our breeder not to ESN our little dood, although his litter mates were. we wanted him to get the benefit from his hormones, as our other dood has HD. We were contracted to have him neutered by twelve months... He was always a nervous/timid little guy - and since he was neutered, he has changed into a reactive dog. I think that it has affected his confidence badly and, given the opportunity, would not have had him neutered. I hadn't realised that you can actually elect to have a vasectomy for your dog now. Of course, it all depends on your doodle's character - our other dood was neutered at thirteen months and is a happy and well-adjusted little guy.
If you are thinking of having your dog neutered, I would definitely advise waiting until they've got beyond the 'flinging their hind leg up in the air' stage...
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Re: When to neuter?

Post by Bid » 04 Aug 2016, 00:10

I opted for a chemical castration for Beamish so I could see what the effect would be before going for the op. With hindsight I should be done this for at least a year rather than just the 6 months I opted for.
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