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 Post subject: Help! My labradoodle won't get better.
PostPosted: 22 Jun 2017, 11:12 
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Hello,
My little labradoodle Jeremy is permanently unwell at the moment. He's sick regularly and has had diarrhea every day for ages (more than a month). He's intermittently had a couple of solid days in between and has had bursts of being himself. Not eating much today and very sicky. I've had numerous trips to the vet, blood tests etc. All say OK. We took him around europe and he became unwell at the end of the trip. He was treated for Babeosis in France when very sick but then the blood test came back as fine. He's on some premium, digestion friendly biscuits (Barking Heads - tender loving care - Gentle Digestion) but just hasn't been himself for ages. He was neutered three months ago so it's really hard to tell with all the various factors (travel, heat, castration etc..) what's wrong with him. I can't keep going to the vets saying "he's just not quite right". I thought diet might be the best start point. Does anyone have any advice please? Any help would be really appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: Help! My labradoodle won't get better.
PostPosted: 22 Jun 2017, 11:23 
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Sorry to hear about your pup. It must be very worrying for you.

Are you on Facebook? If so, there's a fantastic group full of knowledgeable people called Canine Health Concern. Would definitely be worth seeking their advice.

Hope things improve soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Help! My labradoodle won't get better.
PostPosted: 22 Jun 2017, 17:10 
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Oh poor Jeremy, you are bound to be worried.
Our Dude had a lot of tummy issues which we have resolved by changing him over to RAW food. We give Luna and Me patties. Dude is 4 and I really wish we had changed sooner. Hope that helps,Anny x


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 Post subject: Re: Help! My labradoodle won't get better.
PostPosted: 22 Jun 2017, 19:49 
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Sorry to hear about Jeremy :( what did your vet test for ...have they tested for giardia, or campylobacteriosis ? ..and was Jeremy happy and healthy before your travels?
As you have been traveling in Europe...could Jeremy have picked up Rotavirus A....?...

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 Post subject: Re: Help! My labradoodle won't get better.
PostPosted: 22 Jun 2017, 20:04 
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So sorry to hear your baby is not well. Hope you find what it upsetting him.

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 Post subject: Re: Help! My labradoodle won't get better.
PostPosted: 24 Jun 2017, 12:14 
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Poor lad - and what a worry for you.

I think I would first of all try a different food to see if that helps. Whilst I feed mine raw food, I would think you want to keep changes to a minimum at first while you try to get him settled. Barking heads is a pretty good food, but many dogs actually can't cope with either chicken or rice, so you could have a look at the Barking Heads fuss pot range, which is fish and potato - both those are often recommended for dogs with tummy problems.

Pro-texin is something you can buy online (and from vets) which contains kaolin to help with diarrhoea, but I get it because it has pro-biotics to help kick-start a poorly gut that has been unwell and is now recovering. It is possible that he did have babeosis, and is struggling to get back on track afterwards.

If this doesn't work, it might be worth asking your vet for a referral to a specialist, as it is not really very helpful just telling you the tests come back OK when poor Jeremy is still not right - you know him best and if you know something is wrong then the vet should listen.

I hope you can get him sorted soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Help! My labradoodle won't get better.
PostPosted: 27 Jun 2017, 22:07 
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Hello everyone,

Thanks so much for you replies. All very helpful and considerate.
He was booked in to go back to the vets on the day I posted but I started him on his old diet the night before and was pretty much firing on all cylinders by morning so we thankfully didn't need to go back to the vets. He has since made an unbelievable recovery. With so many things going on (neutering, heat, travelling, trips to the vets etc..) it was really difficult to know if he was unwell or not. With hindsight he was not well at all! Also very difficult to give him a raw diet when I was away so he had biscuits.

So good to have him back to normal again (although I have just pulled a huge thorn from his foot).

Regarding the raw diet; I give him Natures Menu Chicken or Chicken and Tripe, a carrot or two and a few peas and he loves it. Is this enough or should I bolster it with anything else to top up vits, minerals and nutrients?

Thanks so much for the help.

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 Post subject: Re: Help! My labradoodle won't get better.
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2017, 23:48 
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Glad to hear he is feeling happier!

Re raw food, a basic guideline is they need 10% bone, 10% offal, and 80% muscle meat. Veg is optional, but should not be more than 25% of the meal. Offal is really only liver or kidney from a nutritional perspective.

I don't know about Natures Menu specifically, but usually any minced chicken product is minced chicken carcass, which is 40% bone. You can tell if they are having too much bone by looking at their poop - if it is white and crumbly then they have had too much bone.

If you are concerned about any missing vitamins and minerals, thre are a few supplements you can try - I sometimes give Smartbarf to mine if they are recovering from an illness, but usually they are fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Help! My labradoodle won't get better.
PostPosted: 01 Jul 2017, 13:30 
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Thanks very much for the advice and sorry... hoping to squeeze out one more bit... My girlfriend is currently pregnant so I don't fancy mixing up too many dead raw things in our small flat kitchen at the moment. Can you recommend a by-post pre-mixed product that does the trick? My mum feeds her dogs Natural Instinct and that looks pretty good. But very pricey! I can get minced chicken carcasses/pet packs from the local butchers and very cheaply and it seems pretty good. He usually has that with peas and carrots but, from the sounds of it I should add something else...

Thanks again,

James


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 Post subject: Re: Help! My labradoodle won't get better.
PostPosted: 01 Jul 2017, 20:26 
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THere are a couple of good suppliers that will deliver - I use Manifold Valley Meats. What they have varies from week to week, but anything labelled "dinner" is a complete food. http://www.manifoldvalleymeats.co.uk/pet-food/

THe Dogs Butcher is also highly recommended http://thedogsbutcher.weebly.com/complete-minces.html

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