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 Post subject: Toilet training at 8 weeks!
PostPosted: 13 Sep 2017, 08:12 
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Hello!

Sorry, I'm fully aware this has probably been asked 100 times before but just after some general toilet training advice.

We have a crate, which he seems perfectly happy with (happily climbed in as soon as we got home and settled down, has been shut in since and at night with no issue - just luck I think as his breeder didn't use crates).

We've designated a corner of the garden for him to use as his toilet. On his first day home, we were doing really well (Monday). I managed to intercept a couple of times and get him outside where he finished doing his thing, and on a few other occasions just managed to be outside at the right time.

Tuesday I thought I was beginning to get his pattern down. Every wee I caught was straight after a nap, so as soon as he woke in his crate, I took him out and he went for a #1. It seemed as though he was going 3 hourly which to me seemed a long time but hey ho, not going to complain!

#2's, I again thought I was cottoning on. His first was 30 mins after dinner on Monday night. Second, 30 mins after waking on Tuesday and third, 30 mins after lunch. So come dinner, I'm expecting a #2 after dinner but nothing. In fact, he hadn't weed since around 2pm in the afternoon. Couldn't get him to go at all outside. Any time I tried, he whined in his toileting area and just tried to leave it. My husband kept putting him in his crate for 15 min intervals come the evening then taking him back outside. But it got to the stage where he had been in his crate for a good couple of hours when I felt he should really be having some play time to wind down for bed. Let him out. 5 mins later, weed in the house!!! 4am this morning he finally did his #2 (in the garden!)

The one thing I'm concerned with now is that on Tuesday, we fenced off his toilet area as he kept trying to wander to other parts of the garden. Now, whenever I put him in it, he just whines and jumps trying to escape. Could this be hindering the training? Is it possible he's now getting a negative association with the toilet area as he's "shut in". Took him out this morning upon waking for a wee (when previously he would reliably empty his bladder. Same thing. Came in and 5 mins later, weed on the floor.

I've been cleaning the areas that he uses indoors with an enzyme cleaner to try and remove the temptation to use the same spot. He does just seem to go wherever though.

Potentially, just letting him wander the garden will yield better results but I was really hoping to confine the poop to one area!!

I really don't want to use puppy pads!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Toilet training at 8 weeks!
PostPosted: 13 Sep 2017, 16:33 
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Welcome! Lots of people will be able to make suggestions but first I would say it takes weeks not days to get results. I mean to really crack house training you have to realise it's a slow process. Pups don't really understand what we want them to do!
I didn't use a crate but I did keep an eye on Dude and even made a note of what he was doing and when. Wees can happen many times a day and the best thing is to clip a little lead on and take the pup outside. Poos are a bit easier to predict and again a little Potter around outside usually gets results. But they are babies and can get caught short anytime :roll:
Between 8-12 weeks I always got up in the night to take Dude outside. I have to say this does speed the process up but it's not for everyone. We did it because we were not using a crate and because it's a very old method which my 90year old Mum always used ( she's my Dog Guru :D )
Good luck Anny and Dude


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 Post subject: Re: Toilet training at 8 weeks!
PostPosted: 14 Sep 2017, 12:48 
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Hi, depends on the dog. Have had three dogs over the years, two of them were great by 11/12 weeks not Dexter the doodle 18 weeks thought we were never going to get there ! He's nearly 5 years old now. Just keep going. H and D

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 Post subject: Re: Toilet training at 8 weeks!
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We got Roker in December so i spent the majority of the winter in the garden house training him and at times i thought we'd never get there. After a decent start we had a spell where it was a nightmare. Got into a routine of going outside first thing, lunchtime, last thing along with after food, after playing etc and then tried to pick up on warning signs. Didnt always work but then you look back off a sudden one day and you realise they've not had an accident in the house in ages.

The only thing i'd change....make sure i pick the pup up in summer not winter.....was freezing stood in the back garden at times!!


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 Post subject: Re: Toilet training at 8 weeks!
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The key times are after sleeping, after eating, and after playing. It helps to start putting a word to the deed - with mine a pee is called a "hurry up", and a poo is just that (well actually it's "puppy poo" but that now sounds stupid as they are adults). So when the pup has a pee, I would get excited and repeat "good hurry up!". I expect you've noticed how easily they are distracted, so this brings them back to the reason for being out there.

As already mentioned, it can take weeks to get there. That's why I preferred to use puppy pads as I couldn't bear the thought of getting up every night for a couple of months, but I know not everyone likes them.

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